Mrs. Fiorini

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  Just found out my niece's husband posts here on the ONE AND ONLY JWD

  by ThomasCovenant in

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  i am very happy to find out today that my nephew-in-law (?

  ) has been viewing and posting on this site for a little while.. with all the recent influx of newbies, before the restrictions came into force, i missed him joining.

  not that i would have known it was him.. i regret to say that i was unaware that he and my niece had stopped going to meetings for about a year and he had been doing his own research into the 't' before finally seeing the shite.. i now have only my parents and parents-in-law still in and a brother in law and his wife barely hanging on.. my family= .

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  Mrs. Fiorini

  I'm so happy for you!
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  Just want to introduce myself

  by cjones in

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  hi everyone, i have been lurking for a very long time and have been pretty much blown away and sickened by what i have learned on this discussion forum (this is actually the first forum i had ever visted).

  i am married to man who was not a jw when i met him (although he was raised as one from his early teens but left when he was in his 20's, oh and that was when he started attending college), to make a long story short we met, fell in love, got married, had a few children and then 20 yrs later he started attending the "meetings" or better yet "the indoctrination sessions" again, which btw he did not tell me that that was what he was doing!!

  shortly thereafter i began noticing changes in his personality, and it wasn't for the better.

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  Mrs. Fiorini

  cjones,

  Welcome to the board! I'm sorry to hear about the difficulties in your marriage. I hope this board continues to be helpful to you. Don't give up hope. Your husband left the organization once before, maybe he will do it again.

  Evidently,

  Sorry to hear about your s-i-l. The story sounds rather shocking. If it became public knowledge in your community (a newspaper story, etc.) that the JW's were rejecting a member because she left her husband for fear of violence against her or her baby, and then threatened to reject her parents as well if they didn't throw her out, I think that would bring some very unwelcome attention to the JW's. Perhaps it would cause them to change their position. Maybe there is more to the story, but when I was in, there was a policy that under extreme cases involving violence, a woman had a right to leave her husband. She just couldn't remarry unless he committed "adultery" first.
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  Joke from Patterson elders' school

  by sir82 in

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  2. friends

  our po recently returned from his indoctrination training session at patterson.. he's been pretty tight-lipped about the experience, following orders from above.

  but he did repeat one joke he said one of the instructors made (keep in mind that all those in attendance were pos).. what is the difference between jesus christ and a po?.

  jesus knows he isn't god!.

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  Mrs. Fiorini

  Blondie's right on the attitude behind that "joke". I don't think they are concerned with how the elders treat the average JW. They are more likely concerned with how they interact with headquarters. How pathetic that they call these men back for a training session and make jokes at their expense! After all, the WT doesn't pay these men for any of the many hours of work they devote to the organization. I realize that elders have their problems, and some definitely do "lord it over" others (I've been the victim of it myself), but you would think that the organization that benefits from their free labor would appreciate them enough to treat them with some respect. If you really want to solve a problem you address it directly in training. You don't make derogatory jokes to your volunteers.
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  SECRET JW LEGAL CASES - PAGE 1 of 4

  by sf in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  for newer posters and lurkers:.

  the 140+ miscellaneous jehovah's witness court cases, and related scenarios, posted in this four-page section are intended to provide additional enlightenment on the main legal and/or historical issues that arise elsewhere within this website.

  readers will never have heard of most of these cases, primarily because such have never been cited by liberal authors, whose works are intended to glorify the jehovah's witness court cases of the 1920s-1970s.

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  Mrs. Fiorini

  Thank you for the interesting information. Have you heard of a criminal case involving a circuit overseer? A number of years ago I was told by the daughter of a circuit overseer (who was also an elder's wife) about a circuit overseer who began robbing Circle K stores. He was caught and removed as a circuit overseer. The father of the woman who told me this was sent to that circuit as the new CO. This happened in the late 70's or early 80's in Montana I believe.
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  Did the F.B.I. ever Investigate the Watchtower or any of it's leaders?

  by Number1Anarchist in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i also thought of this yesterday.

  j. edgar hoover was in charge for like 50 years and he investigated everyone.

  what was his thoughts about the watchtower did he consider them a threat?.

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  Mrs. Fiorini

  Who knows? Maybe they do have dirt like that on Rutherford or others. If those records are somehow now public it could be very enlightening. How does one go about finding out? Anyone know?
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  INTRIGUE, SPYING, DO & CO INSIDE INFO @ THE SPANISH EXJW FORUM

  by iloowy in

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  the following is a translation of a message to extj.com/foro (let's call it the spanish jwd).

  mary, david, once again ... did you know that you are the new watchtower in many circuits?

  original post in spanish .

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  Mrs. Fiorini

  Wow! I hope it wasn't a set up. Please let us know if you hear more!
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  A practical lesson on shunning.

  by strawberry cake in

  1. jw
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  today i decided to visit a friend of mine who i met when she was my study.

  (she has no intentions of making a commitment, but still continues studying with old pioneer 'friends' of mine.

  well it just so happens that these 2 sisters were there.

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  Mrs. Fiorini

  Good for you! I too have been in awkward situations with witnesses shunning me (even though I am not DF'd or DA'd, but everyone knows I joined another church after fading from the WT many years earlier). I agree that the best thing is to let them be the ones that act rudely. I am friendly and polite to them. Maybe it will make them ask themselves "Why does my religion demand that I act like an @#$%^&! to others?".
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  What teaching did you find unacceptable that made you question the WTS?

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  the selection of the society in 1919 as the faithful and discreet slave after jesus spent nearly 5 years observing them.

  jesus must have had some good lsd.

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  Mrs. Fiorini

  R&R, Are you able to talk to him? I bet he would welcome contact with you, especially since no one else in his family has anything to do with him. Part of my family won't speak to me since I left the WT either, but I sure appreciate the ones I have.
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  What I Learned from Bro Lett's DC Talk

  by Rohag in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what i learned/derived from steven lett's dc talk (thanks again, ynot, for providing access to the .mp3 files!).

  brother lett - or the committee that produced the talk - really loves food metaphors.well-dressed people, especially children, produce a good witness.if you're an apostate, chances are bad conduct/secret sin/moral depravity made you that way.

  apostasy is usually founded on sin and rarely on conviction.the bible is an insufficient - or overly cumbersome - guide to godly conduct.

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  Mrs. Fiorini

  Re: "If you're an apostate, chances are bad conduct/secret sin/moral depravity made you that way. Apostasy is usually founded on sin and rarely on conviction." He's doing the best he can. If you can't attack the message, attack the messenger.
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  We who dare to contradict error ...

  by compound complex in

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  2. scandals

  dear friends,.

  i'd like to have t.j. on the forum:.

  "truth is great and will prevail if left to herself.

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  Mrs. Fiorini

  So true. I am reminded of a meeting I attending back when I was still a Witness. The circuit overseer was making the point that we should not allow ourselves to see or hear any information that was critical of the Watchtower or challenged our beliefs. Even though I was a good Witness, I knew that idea made our religion seem weak. I raised my hand and commented that this must be because we respect Jehovah and the Organization, not because we have anything to fear from a challenging argument, since we have the truth. I was surprised when the CO looked back at me with a skeptical look. It would be several more years before I finally left the WT, but I could see then that some things just didn't add up.